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you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with susan rice is benghazi. that ties back to the president and hillary clinton. there is -- it's not a perfect scenario. whereas here it's you're opposing hagel and that has nothing do with me. >> susan rice went to the hill, and it did not go well. there was some sort of a dry run, and it did not go well, and there's some sense that she took herself out of the nomination as well. we can't with stand this. how much do you think hagel's comments about richard hormel, i believe, who was going to serve as the u.s. ambassador to lucks emberg and questioned h
you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with...
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you talk about chuck hagel. what chuck hagel's role in all of that, if et wants to be secretary of defense. it's a complicated issue, and it's more complicated politically, andrea, simply because the american public -- this happened in iraq. it's clearly happening in afghanistan. the american public has tired of our involvement in these conflicts. this is not something new. this is something that has been long and coming. if you look at the history in polling at least of when that happens, public opinion almost never sort of sways back up to all of a sudden be supportive and think this was a battle worth fighting and those sorts of things. it's dangerous ground for any politician because of that. >> we are seeing a change with chuck hagel. this is an obama, hagel foreign policy going forward as well as john kerry, who you have three men there who really are not as committed, hardly, to overseas engagement, and it gets more complicated when you have so many insider attacks, the green on blue attacks, that that ha
you talk about chuck hagel. what chuck hagel's role in all of that, if et wants to be secretary of defense. it's a complicated issue, and it's more complicated politically, andrea, simply because the american public -- this happened in iraq. it's clearly happening in afghanistan. the american public has tired of our involvement in these conflicts. this is not something new. this is something that has been long and coming. if you look at the history in polling at least of when that happens,...
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let me ask you about chuck hagel. do you have any problem with chuck hagel? >> i've only met him once and i certainly have no problem with him. he certainly has a great record not just as a soldier but as a senator. >> schieffer: let's talk a little bit about afghanistan and this is the longest war and the impact that this war has had on our military. when we're talking about the surge and sending more troops at a man and i heard colon colin powell say look correction we're not sending more troops we're sending the same troops. it's almost as if we have run the military into the ground. these people are exhausted we see suicide's up, we see all of these horrendous things. are you worried about that? >> there are two things that concern me. the first is in the force itself. about a year and-a-half ago a ranger platoon sergeant, and i run it for the ranger was killed. and he was on his 14th tour to combat. now there are tours three or four months long but cumulatively 14 of those is a lot. he had just entered the rangers at 2001 so his entire career his service
let me ask you about chuck hagel. do you have any problem with chuck hagel? >> i've only met him once and i certainly have no problem with him. he certainly has a great record not just as a soldier but as a senator. >> schieffer: let's talk a little bit about afghanistan and this is the longest war and the impact that this war has had on our military. when we're talking about the surge and sending more troops at a man and i heard colon colin powell say look correction we're not...
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and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from what has happened as policy around him. he said at the time he withdrew his name from consideration in 2009 he wanted to be known as somebody who was against the iraq war, known as somebody who was against torture, enhanced techniques, specifically against water boarding. he said recently he is against the shifting of military power to the cia, treating cia effectively as an air force. he says a lot of the drone strikes should be carried out by the military, under traditional military authority so we're not doing this exotic ex
and that is chuck hagel. and the other side of that he has also been slower to fight the good fight some would say from his base perspective of shutting down guantanamo. he has made compromises. and he has also signed some of the defense authorization and the reauthorization acts which many civil libertarians find offensive. >> one of the interesting things about brennan is his comments about political controversies that have happened while he was in office. divert pretty strongly from...
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chuck hagel. he is a patriot. he is someone who has done extraordinary work in the united states senate. he served this country with valor in vietnam. he is someone who is currently serving on my intelligence advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> to talk more about the nomination of chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we are joined now by ali gharib writes a middle east blog on the daily beast website. welcome to "democracy now!" talk about the controversy around hagel's in in today by president obama or nominated. >> they floated -- the administration floated his name last month and there's been a firestorm of criticism since then that is come mostly from right-wing republicans, but also a little from pro-israel democratics that is based around his views on israel, iran, some comments he made about a decade ago about a gay nominee to the ambassador the last to be ambassador, and just general right wing republican conservative voting record in his two terms in the senate. all of these a
chuck hagel. he is a patriot. he is someone who has done extraordinary work in the united states senate. he served this country with valor in vietnam. he is someone who is currently serving on my intelligence advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> to talk more about the nomination of chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we are joined now by ali gharib writes a middle east blog on the daily beast website. welcome to "democracy now!" talk about the controversy around...
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guest: i guess we'll see what the objections to a hagel are. i think hagel is a sound choice. i think the president has every right to nominate chuck hagel for this position. some statements he has made in the past need to be aired. my guess is that he will be confirmed by a large margin in the senate. the secretary of defense does not make foreign policy. the secretary of defense plays the primary role of bringing our defense department to bear to the service of the president. most people believe his qualifications are sound. he was a decorated hero, enlisted man in the vietnam war. there never has been an enlisted man like him as secretary of defense. the issues he is going to confront our budgetary issues thehow well we can fund pentagon and how we can cut back on certain aspects of the budget. that will be very tough. i agree with chuck hagel there are some things we can cut. we need to cut with a scalpel and not a sledgehammer. the threats against us are serious. we need to cut the legacy systems and put in more limited amount of funds in the right places so we can protec
guest: i guess we'll see what the objections to a hagel are. i think hagel is a sound choice. i think the president has every right to nominate chuck hagel for this position. some statements he has made in the past need to be aired. my guess is that he will be confirmed by a large margin in the senate. the secretary of defense does not make foreign policy. the secretary of defense plays the primary role of bringing our defense department to bear to the service of the president. most people...
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hagel's nomination. is it your opinion, politically that if chuck schumer doesn't come onboard that chuck hagel couldn't suffer and not go through and get confirmed? >> i think senator schumer will be critical. >> i think that he will be inclined to support the president's choice. i think most of us would be. at the same time, he is going to have to be satisfied that senator hagel will advance these policies that will seek to prevent iran from ever obtaining a nuclear bomb, and i think if the senator, that is if senator schumer were not persuaded during the confirmation that he would be willing to break with the president and it's that important. the iran issue is simply that important, but again, if i were a betting man, i would say that he'll be confirmed, that he'll satisfy the questions that have been raised, but that fate is very much in senator hagel's hands as well as in senator schumer's. >> the hearings will tell the tale. >> thanks for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> bill clinton
hagel's nomination. is it your opinion, politically that if chuck schumer doesn't come onboard that chuck hagel couldn't suffer and not go through and get confirmed? >> i think senator schumer will be critical. >> i think that he will be inclined to support the president's choice. i think most of us would be. at the same time, he is going to have to be satisfied that senator hagel will advance these policies that will seek to prevent iran from ever obtaining a nuclear bomb, and i...
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it looks to me like every day, hagel is being up more support and the choices against chuck hagel seem to get more and more on the sidelines. how do you read it? >> they were strongest before president obama had nominated him because there were some people who wanted to prevent his nomination all out. now that he is nominated. a lot are saying look at the president's per rogrerogativeprerogative. he might not be my first pick but i will go along with him. you have some republicans that are saying they oppose chuck haggel, like senator lindsey graham. generally, it seems chuck hagel does have a solid sort of group of support and his supporters are, i think getting more organized and getting out there instead of pushing the case for chuck hagel. his opponents were mobilized early. it seems like he will take tough questioning but it seems more and more like he will get confirmed. >> amanda, i am curious as to what you think about this, you know, i really feel a lot of it, the opposition to senator hagel becoming secretary of defense by republicans is because he is a republican and they do
it looks to me like every day, hagel is being up more support and the choices against chuck hagel seem to get more and more on the sidelines. how do you read it? >> they were strongest before president obama had nominated him because there were some people who wanted to prevent his nomination all out. now that he is nominated. a lot are saying look at the president's per rogrerogativeprerogative. he might not be my first pick but i will go along with him. you have some republicans that...
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so i think that hagel, i think brennan will bring up a discussion. we'll find out how lib ralts, in fact, they really do care about the use of drones in this administration. the seems to have given a pass to president obama, used drones more than president bush ever did and i think the republicans will use it to discuss benghazi but i think will confirmed as well. >> woodruff: both of them. you were talking about a group of loners. what are these choices and what we know so far about the president's white house staff and cabinet say about the president, david. >> it's not exactly great copy for us. they are not the most exciting group, necessarily. they are a group that has, are people of integrity, every single one of them, no scandals including the new treasury of secretary jack lew so there will be no scandal or no stupidity, wob exception there is cautious, reliable, responsible and for the most part extremely experienced. and so i give them high marks for these sorts of things. i think the way you fault a president is they are already very well-
so i think that hagel, i think brennan will bring up a discussion. we'll find out how lib ralts, in fact, they really do care about the use of drones in this administration. the seems to have given a pass to president obama, used drones more than president bush ever did and i think the republicans will use it to discuss benghazi but i think will confirmed as well. >> woodruff: both of them. you were talking about a group of loners. what are these choices and what we know so far about the...
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>> hagel has two sets of problems. one set relates to the fact that he is a -- he would not be a good choice for secretary of state. he is not -- that is not his bag. he has been outspoken and blunt and prides himself on being mavericky and outspoken. on the one side the things that he said about the state of israel and the united states relationship thereto cause him bipartisan problems with supporters of israel because of things he said that seemed to take sort of an even handed approach to the arab israeli conflict and that is not something that is okay with people who believe that there they are our most important most valuable ally in that region and we he have a special relation shell with them. ha is problematic. he said some things about gay folks that he has since walked back and is sorry about that. then the issue on the right and and is the fact that he anding antagonized his own party. called it the greatest mistake since the vietnam war and itented up working and benefited barack obama to a huge degree. pe
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down sides that hagel has. if mitt romney had won and chosen him, i would have applauded him as real courage. chuck hagel has a lot going for him. he is a brave guy, a principled guy. there is a lot to like about him. he is also a republican, and the democratic party has worked really, really hard over past decades to erase the deficit, in which voters consistently said they trusted republicans more than democrats on national security. democrats have worked really hard to erase that gap, but picking chuck hagel seems to me to be sending a message i can't figure out president obama wants to send, i can't figure out why. and even a democratic president can't be sure that a democrat is going to do a good job leading our establishment. i don't get that particularly when there is so many terrific democrats with very similar kinds of deep foreign policy experience, principled leadership that chuck hagel offers. >> heather, you have been a bit more positive on the picks, what are your thoughts? >> well, like rosa, i w
down sides that hagel has. if mitt romney had won and chosen him, i would have applauded him as real courage. chuck hagel has a lot going for him. he is a brave guy, a principled guy. there is a lot to like about him. he is also a republican, and the democratic party has worked really, really hard over past decades to erase the deficit, in which voters consistently said they trusted republicans more than democrats on national security. democrats have worked really hard to erase that gap, but...
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hagel, the choice for defense secretary. later, someone from morgan stanley talks about his new book. "washington journal" was next. >> good morning here in washington on the sunday morning. rehearsals underway later today for the inaugural ceremony. it will officially get underway in eight days. it is sunday, january 13. the house returns this week. the senate returns after the inauguration. converse tries to figure out what to do on the issue of spending and the national debt. we want to get your comments on a proposal put forth by senate democrats to bypass congress, allowing the president to raise the debt ceiling. it also removes the debate on section four of the 14th amendment. we will focus on all of this this sunday morning. it was a call. numbers at the bottom of your screen. we also want you to join us online on twitter and facebook or send us an e-mail. we will get your calls and comments in just a moment. our question, whether or not they residents can -- president can't bypass congress to raise the debt ceiling.
hagel, the choice for defense secretary. later, someone from morgan stanley talks about his new book. "washington journal" was next. >> good morning here in washington on the sunday morning. rehearsals underway later today for the inaugural ceremony. it will officially get underway in eight days. it is sunday, january 13. the house returns this week. the senate returns after the inauguration. converse tries to figure out what to do on the issue of spending and the national debt....
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hagel will be there for you. and finally, chuck represents the bipartisan tradition that we need more of in washington. for his independence, and commitment to consensus, he has earned the respect of national security and military leaders, republicans and democrats, including me. >> hagel will be the third republican secretary of defense appointed by the last two democratic presidents. william cohen, and bob gates, re-appointed by president obama in 2009. and chuck hagel is a republican senator from nebraska. the republican committee is not jumping up and down celebrating. today, they released a statement about serious concerns that hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues. republican senator graham got even more specific. >> chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense would be the most antagonastic secretary of defense towards israel in our nation's history. he said you should negotiate with iran, sanctions won't work, that israel must negotiate with hamas, he has long cut his tie
hagel will be there for you. and finally, chuck represents the bipartisan tradition that we need more of in washington. for his independence, and commitment to consensus, he has earned the respect of national security and military leaders, republicans and democrats, including me. >> hagel will be the third republican secretary of defense appointed by the last two democratic presidents. william cohen, and bob gates, re-appointed by president obama in 2009. and chuck hagel is a republican...
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he led the fight and a reason we call it a hagel or the webb-hagel gi bill. our kids come home and go to school for free at state schools. >> tony, dianne feinstein, democratic senator, just came out in support of chuck hagel. >> right. >> but there are a bunch of democratic pro-israel leaders like chuck schumer, bob casey, frank lautenberg, carl levin who have yet to weigh in and might have some concerns and bob menendez, the proor the anti-iran hawk. talk about their concerns right now. >> i have looked hard at the statements on the internet and the blogs and what he's said. chuck hagel said my first obligation is to the united states. i took an oath of office to defend the united states constitution. that doesn't mean he's anti-israeli. i have israeli friends, i support the israeli nation and defending themselves. however, break dot-dot, you know, you have to look at what's best for this nation first and how that's anti-semitic i don't know and that's the issue as far as i can tell regarding the rhetoric of hagel. >> john, another issue of particular of th
he led the fight and a reason we call it a hagel or the webb-hagel gi bill. our kids come home and go to school for free at state schools. >> tony, dianne feinstein, democratic senator, just came out in support of chuck hagel. >> right. >> but there are a bunch of democratic pro-israel leaders like chuck schumer, bob casey, frank lautenberg, carl levin who have yet to weigh in and might have some concerns and bob menendez, the proor the anti-iran hawk. talk about their...
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hagel. >> i'm very glad to welcome you back. this is your washington monthly. i must commend you on this terrific magazine devoted to a large extent on what sprang from the career of abraham lincoln, raised history in obama's second term. good luck with the 150th anniversary of the emancipation proclamation. >> thank you. >> i commend you. for those hands out there see this. okay. hag gel over hagel. >> he would be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as secretary of defense. one of the few secretaries who have been wounded in war, and the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. >> president obama announced this week his choice for secretary of defense. former two-term senator from nebraska, chuck hagel. get this. unlike president obama, the democrat, hagel is a republican. hagel voted for the war in iraq in 2003. senator hagel became a vocal critic of the war's management. also, israel backers are incensed by senator hagel's words really israel. hagel said, "the jewish lobby int
hagel. >> i'm very glad to welcome you back. this is your washington monthly. i must commend you on this terrific magazine devoted to a large extent on what sprang from the career of abraham lincoln, raised history in obama's second term. good luck with the 150th anniversary of the emancipation proclamation. >> thank you. >> i commend you. for those hands out there see this. okay. hag gel over hagel. >> he would be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as secretary...
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on the issue of hagel what's the real beef that the republicans have with hagel? what is their real concern with him? >> i think he's very independent-minded, very independent, and i don't think they like that. secondly he broke ranks over the iraq war which he rightly described as a horrible error a massive strategic mistake and something that did not serve american interests. they didn't like that. >> cenk: something strange is going on here. we have republicans opposing a nominee who is a republican, who agreed with the president. who else would he agree with? >> i think ultimately a great many of them because ultimately most of them are sensible people are going to vote for him. we have some people stepping into the fight and encouraging extremeist vile statements about hagel that he's anti-semitic, not supportive of israel, and i think some dislike by republicans. >> cenk: that's really interesting, too. these neo-cons are supposed to be discredited. the iraq war was a disaster. president obama won the issue of exchange and being opposed to the iraq war. why
on the issue of hagel what's the real beef that the republicans have with hagel? what is their real concern with him? >> i think he's very independent-minded, very independent, and i don't think they like that. secondly he broke ranks over the iraq war which he rightly described as a horrible error a massive strategic mistake and something that did not serve american interests. they didn't like that. >> cenk: something strange is going on here. we have republicans opposing a nominee...
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. >> except john kerry every nomination is criticized even in hagel is not good enough. so the backdrop of the obama was working in with a first term and dynamics were different but that was a solid choice and we could have huge ffghts ahead of us. >> with the cuts coming he no -- we know he will support the spending increase. republicans argue the days of the surplus are long gone. he is in favor of a total reform? >> isn't that much tougher fight? >> it will be fight right -- jeff regardless. he has seen it done before. with 1983 james baker sat down with tip o'neill at 9:00 tonight and signed the final agreement. we don't have that environment anymore. maybe that is good for the sunshine law but with intense media scrutiny and day-to-day negotiations it is tougher to get the deal done. i would like for tm to go to camp david for one week. lori: with a chance to get spending cuts? will republicans have any leverage? >> there is opportunity to have responsible conversation. lori: that anything done? >> it is possible. the budget that was criticized the president has pro
. >> except john kerry every nomination is criticized even in hagel is not good enough. so the backdrop of the obama was working in with a first term and dynamics were different but that was a solid choice and we could have huge ffghts ahead of us. >> with the cuts coming he no -- we know he will support the spending increase. republicans argue the days of the surplus are long gone. he is in favor of a total reform? >> isn't that much tougher fight? >> it will be fight...
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they've come out against hagel. democrats are not exactly standing up for this guy, and chuck -- sorry. chuck schumer yesterday saying i look forward to fully studying his records and exploring his views, which is akin to saying maybe. let's take a listen to what these people said yesterday. >> i do want to speak with him particularly about his comments 14 years ago to see if his apology is sincere and sufficient. >> i want to get an explanation about his position in regards to iran. he has been very reluctant to support tough sanctions against iran. iran is an extremely dangerous country. >> now, ryan, is this something like did is this just par for the course that democrats have to say they sort of have to doff their cap to potential, you know, problems they would have with their base visa vi israel or iran sanctions and showing they're tough on these matters, and then they can say, okay, this is our guy? >> i think that's driving some of the democrats here, but katrina is right. if you were -- if you have two no,
they've come out against hagel. democrats are not exactly standing up for this guy, and chuck -- sorry. chuck schumer yesterday saying i look forward to fully studying his records and exploring his views, which is akin to saying maybe. let's take a listen to what these people said yesterday. >> i do want to speak with him particularly about his comments 14 years ago to see if his apology is sincere and sufficient. >> i want to get an explanation about his position in regards to...
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they put out an ad chuck hagel hagel's apology, too little, too late. james hormel, the man hagel rejected and slandered had a very different take. quote, senator hagel stated in his remarks that he was willing to support open military service and lgbt military families. if that is a commitment to treat lgbt services members and families like everybody else, i would support his nomination. starting with hagel i'm joined by joel rubin director of policy and government affairs of the now shares fund and a congressional aide that worked closely with senator hagel's staff. thank you we're glad to have. >> you thank you for having me. >> john: were you surprised by this nomination? >> i was not surprised by this nomination. primarily because we heard of it over the last several weeks. senator haig settle hagel is a leader of independent mind, he has a deep background in foreign policy and matters. he has two purple hearts. this was a gutsy nomination by the president to put him forward. this is where the policies align very well with the president and that's
they put out an ad chuck hagel hagel's apology, too little, too late. james hormel, the man hagel rejected and slandered had a very different take. quote, senator hagel stated in his remarks that he was willing to support open military service and lgbt military families. if that is a commitment to treat lgbt services members and families like everybody else, i would support his nomination. starting with hagel i'm joined by joel rubin director of policy and government affairs of the now shares...
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hagel refused. he had written to president clinton about this exact case, received a letter from clinton, had a commitment from clinton to make certain actions. hagel was moving privately. they're upset he did not sign on to the letter. because of not banned widening and falling with the tribe, there is the concern of its independence -- bandwagoning and following the tribe, there is a concern about his independence. caller: he was against the sanctions against iran. if he has been advising as president, no one would say we are winning in afghanistan. under obama, 80% of the injuries have occurred in afghanistan. does that sound like we are winning? guest: of me go back for a second. -- let me go back for a second. by talking about, i am not the senator from israel, the problem with that is it suggests that those who have strong strategic view is about the u.s.-israel relationship are somehow in the pocket of israelis. i think that is wrong. there are solid, strategic reasons for the relationship. p
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so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country. host: i want to go to something you said. in terms of what the president said about iraq and afghanistan, saying iraq was the war of choice, afghanistan was a war of necessity. in your view, though, was iraq necessary? if so, why? what did we accomplish? guest: we have not accomplished all that much. it is a debatable question. it depends on a lot of factors that are out of my control. we should not forget that we did get rid of saddam hussein. it was a terrible tyrant to his people and a danger to the region. there
so is chuck hagel. i have been at denver's -- eye was the emcee at the nixon senator's dinner -- nixon center's dinner honoring john kyl. chuck hagel was in the room. this is not a war between people. we often over-emphasize these questions of division. these are real debates. this is why we have the capital behind us to have these major discussions. chuck hagel, i think, it was a proud moment. he demonstrated an independence of thought and questioning that i think was vital for the country....
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but the president has chosen chuck hagel or is, i guess, going to choose chuck hagel. and chuck hagel isn't going to be working for himself. he's not going to be freelancing as a senator as he was when he made these misstatements which i suspect have upset senator graham and other members of the senate who might be concerned about some of the things he said in the past. he'll be working for the president. when working for the president you follow the president's policies. i don't see this prior statement as being -- first off, they may -- they may have been wrong. he may have made some statements which were inappropriate, as he did. but everybody does, i guess. and now he's going to be working for the president. and carrying the president's policies forward. i think he'll probably carry them forward rather effectively. the thing i like about chuck, and i've known him for a long time. we had our differences when we were in the senate to say the least because he's a pretty strong personality. but i like the fact that he thinks outside the box. the defense department is g
but the president has chosen chuck hagel or is, i guess, going to choose chuck hagel. and chuck hagel isn't going to be working for himself. he's not going to be freelancing as a senator as he was when he made these misstatements which i suspect have upset senator graham and other members of the senate who might be concerned about some of the things he said in the past. he'll be working for the president. when working for the president you follow the president's policies. i don't see this prior...
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so what do you think chuck hagel would bring? what will be president obama's argument to congress in terms of these hearings that chuck hagel uniquely can bring to that post? >> at one point it was thought that what president obama was seeking was a republican who could help sell difficult defense budget cuts to fellow republicans but that's gone by the boards. i don't see any visible evidence of republican support for their former colleague in the senate. and one of the things that's awkward about this is that we have secretary leon panetta, wht with no timetable. you have a lame duck secretary of defense, hard to make decisions, uncertainty about the future. if barney frank because the interim democratic senator from massachusetts when john kerry is confirmed as secretary of state, you've got somebody who is basically vowed to do whatever it takes to stop the hagel nomination as long as he's in the senate. the prospect is real confusion and uncertainty and the absence of effective active leadership has the department of defense
so what do you think chuck hagel would bring? what will be president obama's argument to congress in terms of these hearings that chuck hagel uniquely can bring to that post? >> at one point it was thought that what president obama was seeking was a republican who could help sell difficult defense budget cuts to fellow republicans but that's gone by the boards. i don't see any visible evidence of republican support for their former colleague in the senate. and one of the things that's...
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and if so -- >> i think ive addressed the question about senator hagel. and i would simply point you to president obamas record on lgbt issues as representative of his beliefs and convictions, his policies and where he believes this country is moving and where he hopes to lead it. >> jay, can i clarify one question? >> i'll try. >> i heard you unequivocally rule out using the 14th amendment on the debt ceiling. i heard you unequivocally rule out negotiating with congress. but you did not rule out this trillion-dollar coin idea. so can i ask you just a yes or no question -- does the white house rule out the idea of minting trillion-dollar coins as a way of dealing with the debt ceiling? >> i would refer you to treasury for the specifics of this question. i can tell you that the president does not believe that there is a backup plan or a plan b or an off ramp. the only viable option here is congress to fulfill its -- is that congress fulfills its responsibility and ensures that the united states of america pay its bills, as it has always paid its bills thro
and if so -- >> i think ive addressed the question about senator hagel. and i would simply point you to president obamas record on lgbt issues as representative of his beliefs and convictions, his policies and where he believes this country is moving and where he hopes to lead it. >> jay, can i clarify one question? >> i'll try. >> i heard you unequivocally rule out using the 14th amendment on the debt ceiling. i heard you unequivocally rule out negotiating with...
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chuck hagel's was one of those votes. and when it came to the bigger issue of iran sanctions on the senate floor, chuck hagel, again, one of only two senators of the entire u.s. senate to vote against iran sanctions, with so many dictators-- >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you, but if i may, let's talk about the point of israel, what has been your concern with senator hagel on that issue. >> well, there was a letter circulated in the united states senate overwhelmingly, a high number of senators signed the letter, expressing something as simple as solidarity with the democratic jewish state of israel, our salad ally. chuck hagel refused to sign a letter expressing solidarity with israel and what we have seen is that he favors engagement with syria's al-assad, with il when he was alive and also, with all of the dictators who seek to harm u.s. interests and our allies. he wants further engagement with them. he doesn't think that we should penalize those dictators and that harms u.s. national security interests. >>
chuck hagel's was one of those votes. and when it came to the bigger issue of iran sanctions on the senate floor, chuck hagel, again, one of only two senators of the entire u.s. senate to vote against iran sanctions, with so many dictators-- >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you, but if i may, let's talk about the point of israel, what has been your concern with senator hagel on that issue. >> well, there was a letter circulated in the united states senate overwhelmingly, a...
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i think there will be a big fight over hagel. there will be confirmation hearings and suspends will he make it or will he not. i think in the end he will make it. it's unusual for the senate to engage in two major confirmations makess at the same time. >> bret: thank you. >>> concern about president obama getting a third term? it's out there. and if you thought all the drama ended at the fiscal cliff, washington may just be getting started. campbell's has 24 nes that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>. >> bret: wall street did not pick up today where it left off. dow dropped 51, s&p 500 was off 4 1/2. nasdaq lost 3. now that washing has backed away from the fiscal cliff. economic counted down clock is ticking down on the next potential crisis over the debt ceiling and sequester cuts. today an interview that raised eyebrows all over the city especially among republicans. correspondent shannon bream reports
i think there will be a big fight over hagel. there will be confirmation hearings and suspends will he make it or will he not. i think in the end he will make it. it's unusual for the senate to engage in two major confirmations makess at the same time. >> bret: thank you. >>> concern about president obama getting a third term? it's out there. and if you thought all the drama ended at the fiscal cliff, washington may just be getting started. campbell's has 24 nes that will make it...
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hagel backed both the afghan and iraq wars. hagel's also a vietnam war vet with two purple hearts and would be the nation's first pentagon chief to have seen combat as an enlisted soldier. he's come under fire for a gay slur of 15 years ago and he's apologized for. even though many may think those criticisms of iraq and afghanistan is invalid. john brennan earned the stripes at the cia and runs counterterror ops which basically means he's running the drone program and fighting al qaeda which is not necessarily the same thing. cia isn't a cabinet position. and brennan isn't up against many roadblocks there. nor any major controversy on senator john kerry's nomination for secretary of state. so, since we're a cable news show, we have to talk about the fight. the fight and for and against hagel at the pentagon. start with an afghan war veteran, anthony schafer, friend of the program. and now with the cent ef of advance defense studies and john saltz, chairman of votevets.org. tony, do you like the pick? is this good for america? >
hagel backed both the afghan and iraq wars. hagel's also a vietnam war vet with two purple hearts and would be the nation's first pentagon chief to have seen combat as an enlisted soldier. he's come under fire for a gay slur of 15 years ago and he's apologized for. even though many may think those criticisms of iraq and afghanistan is invalid. john brennan earned the stripes at the cia and runs counterterror ops which basically means he's running the drone program and fighting al qaeda which is...
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chuck hagel fans. that said president obama has picked hagel. he likes hagel. they're friends going back to their senate tenure. it's hard to imagine if obama really wants hagel ten democratic senators will vote against him. i find that hard to believe. second thing is president obama wants to push for cuts in defense spending. their view is there's no better advocate for it, no better voice for cutting the pentagon that a provincial vietnam veteran like chuck hagel. >> i want to play a clip of what former general stanley mcchrystal said on the "today" show this morning. >> if president obama trusts him, i think senator hagel has the experience. he's certainly got the quality as a person. the real matter is whether the president has that level of trust. that level of trust and relationship between those people and with other members of the cabinet are the most important. >> matt, to perry's point, is a big part of this about the president just likes him? they've gotten along for many years now? >> yeah. he has a very close relationship with vice president joe b
chuck hagel fans. that said president obama has picked hagel. he likes hagel. they're friends going back to their senate tenure. it's hard to imagine if obama really wants hagel ten democratic senators will vote against him. i find that hard to believe. second thing is president obama wants to push for cuts in defense spending. their view is there's no better advocate for it, no better voice for cutting the pentagon that a provincial vietnam veteran like chuck hagel. >> i want to play a...
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who responded to hagel's nomination saying, "i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues and here's the most important part of that quote, "in recent years." he is aware of the quotes he said about hagel six or seven years ago. they've got five purple hearts between them. that's the kind of people we want withdrawing from afghanistan and ending this insane war. i see them as the perfect dynamic duo. batman and robin, salt and pepper, tom and jerry. they have both been shot at and hit. like the hagual pick nominating john brennan signal to opponents of the light footprint strategy which relies on technology and holds war as a last resort when president obama is looking for cover to draw down the u.s. presence in afghanistan and around the world. brennan has been the chief defender of this expanded drone policy. arguing in april that drone strikes against al qaeda are "ethical and just." >> it is hard to imagine a tool that can better minimize the risk to civilians than remotely piloted aircraft. for the same reason, tar
who responded to hagel's nomination saying, "i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues and here's the most important part of that quote, "in recent years." he is aware of the quotes he said about hagel six or seven years ago. they've got five purple hearts between them. that's the kind of people we want withdrawing from afghanistan and ending this insane war. i see them as the perfect dynamic duo. batman and...
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if hagel is confirmed. they'll be forced to spend capital. >> confirmation -- the confirmation process has always been in recent times a knock-down, drag-out bloody battle for the president to get his picks into his cabinet. and coming after losing the presidential election, losing seats in the house and senate, to democrats, the republicans have been looking for a way to ding the president. they were able to ding him by denying him the choice of susan rice, the u.n. ambassador to be the president's next secretary of state. they view going after chuck hagel as being one more notch in this crazy war against the president when a lot of people in the country want congress to focus not so much on chuck hagel as they want them to focus on what's happening with sequester and the budget and debt ceiling and other things that have direct impacts on people's lives. from a policy standpoint, does this come down to bush era neocon, that reminds them that he opposed the war. >> he did oppose the surge. for republicans
if hagel is confirmed. they'll be forced to spend capital. >> confirmation -- the confirmation process has always been in recent times a knock-down, drag-out bloody battle for the president to get his picks into his cabinet. and coming after losing the presidential election, losing seats in the house and senate, to democrats, the republicans have been looking for a way to ding the president. they were able to ding him by denying him the choice of susan rice, the u.n. ambassador to be the...
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hagel will be there for you. finally, chuck represents the bipart sfwlan tradition that we need more of in washington. for his independence and commitment to consensus, he has earned the respect of national security and military leaders, republicans and democrats, including me. m senate i came to admire his courage and his judgment, his willingness to speak his mind, even if it wasn't popular. even if it defied the conventional wisdom. that's exactly the spirit i want on my national security team. when it comes to the defense of our country, we are not democrats or republicans. we are americans. each of us has a responsibility, chuck has said, to be guided not by the interests of our party or our president even, but by the interests of our country. chuck, i thank you, and lily beth for agreeing to serve once more in the interest of our country. now, when i'm on the subject of patriots, let me say a few words about john brennan. in john brennan, the men and women of the cia will have the leadership of one of our n
hagel will be there for you. finally, chuck represents the bipart sfwlan tradition that we need more of in washington. for his independence and commitment to consensus, he has earned the respect of national security and military leaders, republicans and democrats, including me. m senate i came to admire his courage and his judgment, his willingness to speak his mind, even if it wasn't popular. even if it defied the conventional wisdom. that's exactly the spirit i want on my national security...
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hagel. he's an honorable man. he has a record of distinguished service. but he's profoundly ro lly wron number of the most important social security issues that face our country today like denying iran nuclear weapons, like direct face-to-face negotiations with state department designated terrorist organizations like hamas and calling into question our commitment to our principal ally in the middle east, israel. >> one of the really key figures in this nomination, john mccain of arizona, an old friend of chuck hagel released a statement saying, "i have serious concerns about positions senator hagel has taken on a range of critical national security issues in recent years." there also appear to be reservations on the democratic side as well. members of that party are stopping short in some cases of offering hagel a full throated endorsement. some democrats have already backed them. senator chuck schumer of new york released a statement of his own reading in part, "chuck hagel has earned the r
hagel. he's an honorable man. he has a record of distinguished service. but he's profoundly ro lly wron number of the most important social security issues that face our country today like denying iran nuclear weapons, like direct face-to-face negotiations with state department designated terrorist organizations like hamas and calling into question our commitment to our principal ally in the middle east, israel. >> one of the really key figures in this nomination, john mccain of arizona,...
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hagel and he took a pass. in in the past republican nominees have often gotten broad republican backing but despite hagel's 12 years in the senate, he may find republican votes pretty hard to come by. on the sunday shows, republican senators hit hagel and hit him hard. >> he has long severed his ties with the republican party. this is an in your face nomination by the president. >> if hagel is nominated, it is very difficult to imagine a circumstance in which i can support his confirmation. >> a lot of tough questions of senator hagel, but he'll be treated fairly. >> known for his independent streak he became a thorn in the side of senate republicans in 2007 when he turned against the iraq war. >> how are we helping the american military and those individuals we're sending off to fight and die by remaining silet? >> that ultimately among the bigger reasons why he will have support among senate republicans. that said, he will face questions about his support for israel after referring to certain pro-israeli gro
hagel and he took a pass. in in the past republican nominees have often gotten broad republican backing but despite hagel's 12 years in the senate, he may find republican votes pretty hard to come by. on the sunday shows, republican senators hit hagel and hit him hard. >> he has long severed his ties with the republican party. this is an in your face nomination by the president. >> if hagel is nominated, it is very difficult to imagine a circumstance in which i can support his...
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this man is chuck hagel. chuck hagel enlisted in the army in 1967. he was a sergeant in the infantry. in 1968 -- and this is an anomaly. this is not true of very many other people, if any other people at all. chuck hagel served in the same small patrol in the infantry as his brother. he was 21 at the time. his brother tom was 19. in march 1968, sergeant hagel was on patrol when he was hit by shrapnel from a mine. he still carries some of that shrapnel in his chest today. but that day in 1968, it was his younger brother tom who tore his shirt open and wrapped the bandages around chuck hagel's chest to stop the bleeding. his brother saved him. his younger brother tom had also been hit by shrapnel. they spent time recovering in a field hospital after that incident. they didn't stay in the hospital long, though, because the following month, in april 1968, the two of them were back out together. they were riding in the same armored personnel carrier when it also was hit by a mine in an ambush. quoting from the book "long time passing" here, chuck instantl
this man is chuck hagel. chuck hagel enlisted in the army in 1967. he was a sergeant in the infantry. in 1968 -- and this is an anomaly. this is not true of very many other people, if any other people at all. chuck hagel served in the same small patrol in the infantry as his brother. he was 21 at the time. his brother tom was 19. in march 1968, sergeant hagel was on patrol when he was hit by shrapnel from a mine. he still carries some of that shrapnel in his chest today. but that day in 1968,...
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hagel said the u.s. is should talk to hamas. he opposed declaring hezbollah a terrorist organization and also said this is the quote the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. senator ayotte, how troubled are you by the hagel nomination? >> let me say this i'm very he troubled. i think that the hearings on this nomination are going to be consequential. i have not made up my mind but here s where we are. you put up his prior positions. it makes me wonder and perplexes me why the president nominated senator hagel. one of the things that troubles me that you didn't put up s also the reaction of iran. one of the greatest threats that we face is that iran acquiring a nuclear weapon. some of the prior statements seem to suggest that he thinks we could contain iran. well, that is against 99 senators we recently voted and richard blumenthal is a great supporter of that that our policy cannot be to contain a nuclear armed iran. iran this week kind of reacted favorably some what. some statements favorable to the nomination. the
hagel said the u.s. is should talk to hamas. he opposed declaring hezbollah a terrorist organization and also said this is the quote the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. senator ayotte, how troubled are you by the hagel nomination? >> let me say this i'm very he troubled. i think that the hearings on this nomination are going to be consequential. i have not made up my mind but here s where we are. you put up his prior positions. it makes me wonder and perplexes me why the...
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i think hagel will be confirmed. on the broader personal issue, any -- there's one of the big differences between a good president and great president is his ability to be able to find common ground with enemies and find a way in which making his mark on history, making his mark on the country can be seen as a win also for the other side, to keep enemies close if not closer than your friends. that's something bill clinton was good at and fdr was great at and lincoln was good at. reagan arguably was good at it with tip o'neill. barack obama had a hard time with that. he doesn't like the back slapping that's required in politics. it's something the public admires in him and one reason why he is so popular generally with the public, that he is seen with a man with a lot of self-confidence and comfortable in his own skin. in this town, any political environment, you have to get to know the other side and empathize with them. it's not one of his greatest ranks so far. >> you point that out today in your piece, learning ho
i think hagel will be confirmed. on the broader personal issue, any -- there's one of the big differences between a good president and great president is his ability to be able to find common ground with enemies and find a way in which making his mark on history, making his mark on the country can be seen as a win also for the other side, to keep enemies close if not closer than your friends. that's something bill clinton was good at and fdr was great at and lincoln was good at. reagan arguably...
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chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over the questions of the use of force. then they split, of course, when barack obama ran for president. chuck hagel's wife endorsed barack obama when he was a candidate. chuck hagel stopped short of it. lots of republicans don't believe hague sl a republican, by the way. mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate yesterday hold his fire, as jim was pointing out, hold his fire. didn't come out against the nominati nomination. everybody has their own po
chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets,...
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mcconnell called hagel . . . and said many of the predictions chuck hagel made about the iraq war came true. the next criticism of chuck hagel is that he won't support israel enough. he has referred to a jewish lobby in washington. but today the anti-defamation league said that it would support him. still the issue reportedly does have the white house concern, and according to cnn the white house has reached out to jewish groups for their support. and then on gay rights. hagel called james hormel aggressively gay. he has renounced those words, but now a future senator who is obviously a leading advocate he told the "boston globe," quote . . . >> jennifer: so joining me now to discuss all of the president's cabinet appoints is michael o'hanlon of the brookings institute. welcome back inside "the war room." really appreciate it. >> thank you governor nice to be with you. >> jennifer: great to be with you too. brookings institution is a very respected organization. do you think hague sell a good pick? >> yeah, i ten
mcconnell called hagel . . . and said many of the predictions chuck hagel made about the iraq war came true. the next criticism of chuck hagel is that he won't support israel enough. he has referred to a jewish lobby in washington. but today the anti-defamation league said that it would support him. still the issue reportedly does have the white house concern, and according to cnn the white house has reached out to jewish groups for their support. and then on gay rights. hagel called james...
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my concern is after hagel and i think hagel will probably get confirmed after the hearings, after hagel, who's to follow? what is the trail of people who do have combat experience? who will follow hagel? i'm concerned about this. >> let's bring you in and transition from hagel because you have a lot of progressives and even actually today one republican and we'll play the sound a little bit later wondering whether or not john brennan is getting some kind of a pass here. there was a protest yesterday outside of the white house. not about chuck hagel but john brennan, the role in the bush administration regarding aggressive interrogation techniques, his role regarding the drone missions that continued through the obama administration as politico points out today, even reviving this dispute over leaks or alleged leaks out of the white house. are we not paying enough attention to brennan when, again, there were actual protests outside the white house yesterday regarding his nomination? >> well, in terms of the confirmation process, what doesn't -- protests outside the white house matter a l
my concern is after hagel and i think hagel will probably get confirmed after the hearings, after hagel, who's to follow? what is the trail of people who do have combat experience? who will follow hagel? i'm concerned about this. >> let's bring you in and transition from hagel because you have a lot of progressives and even actually today one republican and we'll play the sound a little bit later wondering whether or not john brennan is getting some kind of a pass here. there was a...
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president obama nominates chuck hagel to be secretary of defense. the men charged with raping a young indian woman on a bus arrived in court where proceedings dissolved into chaos. and hitting a high note in south africa. we meet an unlikely star whose voice takes them from -- hollywood. across >> a combat soldier still -- still carries a treadmill in his chest. he will be the first wounded soldier to ever serve as secretary of defense. not everyone is happy with his nomination. >> this is the man president obama wants to lead the largest military force the world has ever known. a former soldier who knows the cost of war. >> he knows war is not an abstraction. he knows the sending young americans to fight and believe in the dark and muddy is something we only do when absolutely necessary. >> he is to be a republican senator, but he is a provocative thick. -- pick. >> i will do my best for my country and those i represent at the pentagon and for all of my citizens. i will always give you my honest and most informed counsel. >> he served in vietnam tw
president obama nominates chuck hagel to be secretary of defense. the men charged with raping a young indian woman on a bus arrived in court where proceedings dissolved into chaos. and hitting a high note in south africa. we meet an unlikely star whose voice takes them from -- hollywood. across >> a combat soldier still -- still carries a treadmill in his chest. he will be the first wounded soldier to ever serve as secretary of defense. not everyone is happy with his nomination. >>...